![]() ![]() ![]() You really need the i7 for laptops with integrated 4K panels - there is a reason if you want the 4K panel in your laptop on day one, you HAVE TO purchase an i7 version! Yes, an i5 can drive a 4K monitor, but it often suffers graphically due to the weaker CPU. CPU, GPU/IGP - these matter for driving high resolution displays.As an example, this is what I worry about: For the HPs I have in production the 840 G3 looks almost as bad, but the G5 is tolerable - still noisy but it’s more usable and most of them (if not all) have Windows Hello - which has more utility. My Lat 7490 even looks bad despite being reasonably new since it has a 720p 0.9MP camera (non-IR, IR Windows Hello units aren’t as common with these). Most laptop webcams are known for this issue where the signal to noise ratio is poor. I'm at a point 768p is unacceptable, 1080p is the minimum and 4K out of the box is becoming a non-negotiable thing as it gets cheaper. What sweetened the deal is I got it for FHD non-SV money in a pandemic. My 840 G5 has the non-SV 4K IPS panel, and it's a far cry better from the normal non-SV FHD panel. ![]() But also, why would I care about the webcam when I can upgrade to a 4K screen and a Core i7 from the factory, or get one where someone did it and get it cheap? If it's new, I'm spending the money you'd waste on a marginally better webcam to at least IR for Windows Hello (if it isn't standard), but after that the rest goes to doing the 4K upgrade and then focusing on the CPU, RAM and SSD. If anything, this is why I tend to disregard camera quality - mediocrity is normal. Once you step up from an all-show machine to a machine with the options people will buy, the camera is a minor detail beyond "everyone will cry if you cut this, so put something in that works even if it's 0.9MP".Įx: If you have my 840 G5 (which indeed has a crappy camera), that's normal because I have 8GB of RAM (factory spec was 16GB, but someone kept half?), the IR camera, an i7-8550U CPU and a 4K screen - the budget and options went where people want to spend the money. Generally, the rule is the better the spec is where it matters, the worse the camera is as it becomes an afterthought. I can get a C310 or similarly cheap camera for someone and plug it into my laptop if someone I'm dealing with absolutely demands a descent camera or tell them about my stance on these things and to take a hike.īy That's fine as it won't harm the computer, but I'm all too familiar with bad webcams to know bad cameras are a feature in laptops. This is why I worry about loading the machine with RAM, storage and a good processor (and in some cases, a 4K screen) over camera quality. Yes, it may help if you swap it out for a less awful one as some have better signal to noise performance, but you'll see this time and time again and the replacement may be worse, or slightly less noisy. But 95% of the time, it's behaving as expected for what is a sensor with HD 720p processing at 0.9MP about the size as the one in my Motorola RAZR V3i (unlocked Euro 3G variant, our US bands didn't like it past 2G and it had the Moto music player whereas we got the "iTunes phone" version natively) I had in high school downgraded from 1.3MP VGA to 0.9MP 720p. It wasn't until the manufacturers made the sensor larger on select models, which meant moving it where the logo is (think lowered Dell or HP logo, with the camera being slightly higher) or notching the laptop they stink less today. The notching or above the logo fix is what they have had to do to appease the people who want it to be descent. Thinning out the LCD frame to make space and the removal of 2 screws in favor of a slot in panel have allowed for larger sensors, but not by much. Like I said, my non-IR freaking 8th gen Dell has issues and my IR 840 G5 is a little better but not by much. 95% of the time, it's expected and isn't a hardware issue - it's poor noise to signal management, not a bad webcam sensor. If you look at the spec sheet, it just says "HD Webcam", better known as 0.9MP 720p in hidden language - if it isn't a SD sensor interpolated to HD and lying on the spec sheet (which I don't put past anyone, especially Toshiba). ![]()
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